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Your daily dose of stupidity brought to you from this thread at [livejournal.com profile] ljchristians. I feel bad for the original poster because they really seem to be looking for advice on how to help their friend, but I don't think they realize that this is not the place to look for it. I don't know if [livejournal.com profile] ljchristians is has bad as [livejournal.com profile] christianity can be about this, but...damn it all, even though I know I shouldn't look, I did. As this is one comment that I found.


Im sure I'll be shot down in flames for for saying this, but its a lie to say someone is homosexual. As hard as it may be to accept, attraction to people of the same sex is only natural in that its natural for mankind to sin; and having sexual relations with people of the same sex is a sin.

Its' not something you "are". It is a behavioral type and generally reflects some kind of hurt or problem in the past.

Your dear friend does not have to dispair though: The answer lies in the blood of Jesus which can heal her wounds and change her desires. The trouble is finding a christian pastor who understands this, and is able to love the sinner despite the sin. She also must not cut herself up about it. She needs counselling and deliverance from her past. Once that is done, the sin which is the symptom will disappear.





Sometimes I really hate Christians. Which sounds bad considering I am one, but I can't lie about this. Sometimes I hate the people who share my faith. I can only hope that the comment I left in the thread will be of some help to the original poster's friend.

I just wish that people would actually...oh, I dunno, know what the hell they're talking about before they speak. I'm tired of hearing this shit. Oh, well... Be the change you want in the world, right? I guess the only thing I can do, and that other people can do, is reach out to people who are confused and questioning and maybe bit by bit these kinds of answers will disappear.

I dream, right?

Date: 2010-07-22 03:57 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] elphies-galinda.livejournal.com
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I wish I could see the original thread. Grrr. Anyway, you did a good thing by answering however you did. I don't need to read it in order to know that you did the right thing. :)

Unfortunately, people will interpret the Bible however they want. We read that it's okay to love whoever you want; they read that hate is the way to bring Christ to people. Major differences in judgment, but that's how the world turns.

The main thing we need to keep in mind is that we're all human. We may be wrong. They may be wrong, too. We as humans have no way of really knowing because we're limited, and the Bible has been written and translated so many times that the verse that says "Thou shalt not lie with a man as you do with another woman" could have originally been "Eat your fish with salt and a twist of lime" for all we know. What we all need to keep in mind is that we all believe in the same God and follow the same footsteps of the same Christ. That's gotta amount to something, right?

Regardless, I still believe (and know) that God will not abandon me simply because I'm in love with you, another girl. I still believe in Him and try to follow Him as best as I can. And if one simple sin will destroy the rest of my life, then Christ doesn't sound very Christ-like, does He?

Date: 2010-07-22 06:23 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] be-themoon.livejournal.com
ext_80109: (STXI: Uhura: can't handle half of me)
ugh, I'm sorry. That's an awful comment.

*hugs* I'm glad you tried to inject rationality into there, and I really hope it doesn't turn out badly for you.

Date: 2010-07-23 04:52 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] darkauthor26.livejournal.com
It's not even the worst comment I've ever read. At least she's not saying that gay people are pedophiles. :/ ...I don't think. It's just one of those days where you just reach the end of your rope with this crap, you know? I hate it when people assumes that if you're gay you must be "damaged" in some way. But, of course, it didn't help that the OP's friend was sexually abused as a girl so that didn't help the sexual abuse = becoming gay assumption... (Which also makes the comment sound worse because it just sounds...too cheery? Like, they don't think the abuse is a serious issue that will take years to overcome? I dunno...) And, of course, someone else pulled out the "how does she know she's gay if she's never taken a lover?" bullshit. Which I hate with a passion.

On the other hand, I just checked back with the thread (no one's replied to my comment yet which is probably just as well) and saw someone rip into the person for it; they said that telling someone that it was sinful to be gay and that it was a choice that could be corrected was emotionally abusive as far as she was concerned. She also said that the Bible was not a science or psychology textbook and shouldn't be used as such. It restored my faith in humanity. :)

And of course, the LGBT Christian communities I found today helped a lot. ^_^

Thank you for the hug. :) *hugs back*

Date: 2010-07-23 12:01 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] tsubomi.livejournal.com
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...What's that animated gif of exactly?

Date: 2010-07-23 05:28 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] forensicgirl.livejournal.com
*wanders in*
I have the poster friended and I don't think they meant to cause trouble, but I agree that that is not the best place to look. I have replied to a couple of people there-I wonder if they will ban me for it?

Your comment there was excellent, by the way. I get so furious that I have trouble being rational.

*wanders out*

Date: 2010-07-23 03:58 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] darkauthor26.livejournal.com
I apologize if it sounded like I thought they were purposely trying to cause trouble. I should have clarified that I read this on one of those days where I just couldn't handle this stuff anymore (my girlfriend spent the rest of the day convincing me not to make a break for Canada >.>).

I can't see why they would ban you, but it would be a shame if they did. And thank you. :)

Date: 2010-07-26 03:48 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] forensicgirl.livejournal.com
That's cool-I was more trying to affirm your original statement that the poster was trying to help a friend.

Yeah, I have days like that too-I think we all do one time or another. I also, like many people, have issues that are triggering or unusually upsetting to me, and exclusion/ostracism in any form (racism, sexism, homophobia, etc) is a big one of mine.

I am Canadian and generally consider my country to be pretty awesome, although it would be better if we had a more liberal PM-I loathe Steven Harper and feel he is trying to ruin my country. Grrrrr....

I wasn't sure how strict the mods were in that community-in some places they would have banned me for disagreeing with the Bible in any way, shape or from. I'm glad they didn't, and that I didn't get any angry replies, which is what I would have gotten a pile of in [livejournal.com profile] christianity.

While I didn't reply to your comment, I completely agreed with it. And I'm glad my comment made you feel better. Too bad you couldn't see me foaming at the mouth with rage while I was typing it-that was a sight to see.

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